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> <channel><title>Comments on: Until Logic Did Them Apart</title> <atom:link href="http://blog.jeffreymcmanus.com/1344/until-logic-did-them-apart/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://blog.jeffreymcmanus.com/1344/until-logic-did-them-apart/</link> <description>The New Thing</description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 23:02:55 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: jeffrey</title><link>http://blog.jeffreymcmanus.com/1344/until-logic-did-them-apart/comment-page-1/#comment-1634</link> <dc:creator>jeffrey</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 20:54:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blog.jeffreymcmanus.com/?p=1344#comment-1634</guid> <description>News flash: homosexuality exists in nature, which makes it part of biology.Vaccination requirements for marriage are gradually being rolled back and you can get married in most places in the US without a blood test of any kind. No idea how that applies to the argument you&#039;re trying to make.With respect to &quot;ancestry&quot; (by which I would imagine you really mean &quot;kinship&quot;), are you trying to make the point that gay marriage would necessarily open the door to marriage between siblings? If that were true, why hasn&#039;t it happened in any of the many places where gay marriage is legal?&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-1634&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>News flash: homosexuality exists in nature, which makes it part of biology.</p><p>Vaccination requirements for marriage are gradually being rolled back and you can get married in most places in the US without a blood test of any kind. No idea how that applies to the argument you&#8217;re trying to make.</p><p>With respect to &#8220;ancestry&#8221; (by which I would imagine you really mean &#8220;kinship&#8221;), are you trying to make the point that gay marriage would necessarily open the door to marriage between siblings? If that were true, why hasn&#8217;t it happened in any of the many places where gay marriage is legal?<p
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isPermaLink="false">http://blog.jeffreymcmanus.com/?p=1344#comment-1633</guid> <description>biology = evoutionFor a list of marriage limitations by state, see http://www.usmarriagelaws.com/search/united_states/index.shtmlMany states have health and vaccination requirements. Ancestry relates to limits on family members marrying.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-1633&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>biology = evoution</p><p>For a list of marriage limitations by state, see <a
href="http://www.usmarriagelaws.com/search/united_states/index.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.usmarriagelaws.com/search/united_states/index.shtml</a></p><p>Many states have health and vaccination requirements. Ancestry relates to limits on family members marrying.<p
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isPermaLink="false">http://blog.jeffreymcmanus.com/?p=1344#comment-1632</guid> <description>Also, I have no idea what you&#039;re talking about when you say that there are &quot;health&quot; and &quot;ancestry&quot; limitations on who can get married. Did you just teleport in from the 18th century? The notion that if we make gay marriage legal we&#039;ll be able to marry children, porcupines, etc., is utterly disingenuous and, I have to say, one of the weaker of the Prop. 8 anti-arguments. Absolutely nobody believes this argument (including, I&#039;m sure, people who are making it).To say that &quot;the gay movement is reaching&quot; ignores the fact that marriage equality is the law of the land in five U.S. states and in many countries around the world.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-1632&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, I have no idea what you&#8217;re talking about when you say that there are &#8220;health&#8221; and &#8220;ancestry&#8221; limitations on who can get married. Did you just teleport in from the 18th century? The notion that if we make gay marriage legal we&#8217;ll be able to marry children, porcupines, etc., is utterly disingenuous and, I have to say, one of the weaker of the Prop. 8 anti-arguments. Absolutely nobody believes this argument (including, I&#8217;m sure, people who are making it).</p><p>To say that &#8220;the gay movement is reaching&#8221; ignores the fact that marriage equality is the law of the land in five U.S. states and in many countries around the world.<p
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class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-1632">1</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: jeffrey</title><link>http://blog.jeffreymcmanus.com/1344/until-logic-did-them-apart/comment-page-1/#comment-1631</link> <dc:creator>jeffrey</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 17:04:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blog.jeffreymcmanus.com/?p=1344#comment-1631</guid> <description>Getting married isn&#039;t logical for *anyone*, my friend.But this isn&#039;t about logic, it&#039;s about love and it&#039;s about equality. I have to say, I&#039;m taken aback at how people are willing to give this much power over the family to the state. Because that&#039;s what you&#039;re arguing for here: the state should have the ability to say who we can and can&#039;t marry. And if they can restrict this, they can restrict *anything*.If you&#039;re opposed to marriage equality on the basis of &quot;biology&quot; (by which I assume you mean that you think that being gay is wrong because gay people can&#039;t produce children of their own), then are you also in favor of banning marriage for old people as well?&quot;Religion&quot; doesn&#039;t determine our laws, last time I checked. Unless you were really interested in criminalizing the wearing of clothing made of two different kinds of threads and so forth?&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-1631&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting married isn&#8217;t logical for *anyone*, my friend.</p><p>But this isn&#8217;t about logic, it&#8217;s about love and it&#8217;s about equality. I have to say, I&#8217;m taken aback at how people are willing to give this much power over the family to the state. Because that&#8217;s what you&#8217;re arguing for here: the state should have the ability to say who we can and can&#8217;t marry. And if they can restrict this, they can restrict *anything*.</p><p>If you&#8217;re opposed to marriage equality on the basis of &#8220;biology&#8221; (by which I assume you mean that you think that being gay is wrong because gay people can&#8217;t produce children of their own), then are you also in favor of banning marriage for old people as well?</p><p>&#8220;Religion&#8221; doesn&#8217;t determine our laws, last time I checked. Unless you were really interested in criminalizing the wearing of clothing made of two different kinds of threads and so forth?<p
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isPermaLink="false">http://blog.jeffreymcmanus.com/?p=1344#comment-1630</guid> <description>But the whole idea of two same-sex people getting married is not logical. It has no grounding in biology OR religion. Polygamy makes way more sense since it&#039;s totally natural. There are all sorts of limitations on who can be married: age, health, ancestry, etc. A gay man can marry a gay woman. Equal rights. I think the gay movement is reaching here and it may set them back immensely.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-1630&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But the whole idea of two same-sex people getting married is not logical. It has no grounding in biology OR religion. Polygamy makes way more sense since it&#8217;s totally natural. There are all sorts of limitations on who can be married: age, health, ancestry, etc. A gay man can marry a gay woman. Equal rights. I think the gay movement is reaching here and it may set them back immensely.<p
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